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TheClue

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My first terrain...and hills look terrible!
« on: May 30, 2015, 03:58:45 PM »
Hello to all,

after having watched lot of tutorials from geekatplay and youtubr, I decided it was time to me to build something from scratch in WM: some soft (but ridged on top and nicely carved) coastal hills and a small pluvial valley underneath.

I've studied like a mad. I'm ready to do that, I told myself.

Well...no I don't :D

First experiment results: a terrible-looking, dull and flat terrain

First of all, I think my network is damned complex for such simple layout. Perhaps some uneeded nodes?

Hills seems a bit up too rough to me, but if i power-up the erosion nodes, they goes disrupting and ending up in flatland.
At the end of the day, I was not able to soften them (in the valley-midland range) without loosing them.

The valley is way too large and make the terrain uninteresting. Perhaps I made a mistake in the Terrace or the Expander node, or in the Perlin generator?

Finally, the erosion. It leaves a weird set grain/spikes I was not able to control, and a sediment collapsion just below the higher ridges. It looks weird when applying a simple texture overlay.

I know there're very dummy question, but I really want to understand where are my mistakes. I definitively want to improve my skills :)

tnx in advance for any support!
gabriele

PS I'm using 2.3.7 Basic

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Re: My first terrain...and hills look terrible!
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2015, 11:45:05 AM »
Have a go with the new Rivers 2 update. It has some tools specific for creating nice valleys

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Re: My first terrain...and hills look terrible!
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2015, 03:51:42 PM »
Hi there,

I think you're being very over-critical of your terrain! It's certainly not terrible looking at all; there are many places on earth that look very much like that. If you're specifically trying to create Hawaii-style ridgelines, they are a very unique look that can be challenging to replicate -- indeed, they'd be labelled as unrealistic in many locales! --  so I wouldn't be worried that you're having difficulties.

The big questions you have to ask are:

1) To what extent are you trying to create a specific place, versus the feel of the place? If you have a specific valley in mind, for example, you'd probably want to sculpt the basic shape of the valley using the layout tool or by hand. This can give you the sharp spine and soft ribs radiating off the spine -- at the cost of having to place them all by hand...

2) If you're trying to replicate the generic feel without a specific source image in mind, then try breaking down the components of the scene, keeping in mind that what you're creating won't match the reference -- but hopefully will match the feel of it.

For #2, I'd say the major characteristics are:

 - Razor-sharp ridgelines along the spine
 - Soft ridges with deep carved gullies falling away from the primary ridge
 - Very soft, almost featureless valleys underneath the ridges

I've attached an example world where I"ve tried to replicate those three features above.

Ridged perlin provides the basic terrain; channeled erosion and thermal erosion create the basic ridge and gulley network, which has been further emphasized by carving away a blurred flow map from the terrain. Finally, the lower valley area is blurred to produce the soft hills of the lowlands.

This may or may not be representative of what you want, but hopefully it at least gives you some ideas about how to approach creating a thematic terrain!

 
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- Creator of World Machine

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Re: My first terrain...and hills look terrible!
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2015, 10:38:11 PM »
Maybe this will help?



I couldn't find the article the image is from though.